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Post by Celeste McCall on Feb 10, 2013 13:22:04 GMT -6
Artists have said, "Great Shapes Make GREAT Paintings". So this is a quick lesson on shapes. us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/hoboton/hoboton1102/hoboton110200070/8884615-red-garden-rose.jpgLook at the rose above. It has an interesting ARTIST shape. ARTISTS are shape makers and exaggerators if they are to be an artist of note such as what Edgar Whitney taught. Notice that each 'v' BETWEEN each petal....points to where the stem attaches the rose (which is approximately 2/3 of the way down from the top of the rose.) Look at the rose shape below. I would not want to paint this rose, personally, but others might. To each his/her own, of course. Not saying this is wrong.....just more of a normal shape....and therefore, in my humble opinion only. It's not 'exaggerated' enough to grab someone's eye and that is why I find it less exciting than the rose above. 1.bp.blogspot.com/_K4BXHOBCRgE/TDyx09dLgiI/AAAAAAAAAbI/MdgnpugLM2w/s1600/Pierre+de+Ronsard.jpg
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Post by Celeste McCall on Feb 10, 2013 13:23:09 GMT -6
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Post by Celeste McCall on Feb 10, 2013 13:27:41 GMT -6
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Post by Celeste McCall on Feb 10, 2013 13:36:11 GMT -6
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Post by Celeste McCall on Feb 10, 2013 13:42:20 GMT -6
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Post by Celeste McCall on Feb 10, 2013 13:47:02 GMT -6
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Post by Celeste McCall on Feb 10, 2013 13:54:23 GMT -6
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Post by June Watson on Feb 11, 2013 8:31:17 GMT -6
Celeste, Great quick lesson on shapes . Frank Webb's art I believe also draws your eye into his paintings not only with shape , but also where he places his colors! It's different but I like his style.
Thanks again for sharing , June
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Post by Pat Alexander on Feb 11, 2013 10:00:40 GMT -6
I really enjoyed Frank Webb's art! What struck me first was COLOR and then, of course, I focused on shapes. Very different from anything I have tried to paint or that I have in my home. But I really like it!
Celeste, the rose example I understand is extreme, but it does remind me of a rose I did on a tile at Cherryl's from her demo in class. The rose is striking and attention getting...stands alone by itself really. I'm thinking that Cline's roses were similar?
Being a cat person I do see where the side views are more interesting...but I also like the back view sillouette.
It is all interesting to think about. Thank you for these links...I will be referring back to them! >^..^<
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Post by Celeste McCall on Feb 11, 2013 11:00:31 GMT -6
Dear June, Thanks for the post. I agree....his work is very interesting to look at. And I guess I like it mostly because of the great shapes which connect from one side of the painting to the other. I learned something today by looking at his paintings. One can use flat shapes along with shapes which have gradation with them (like his shadow shapes). This is new to me. I know that we can use form (shaded shapes with depth added to them) OR flat shapes. But I didn't realize that as long as we use gradation in shadow shapes....that we can paint flat shapes. This is actually similar to what Alzora does and which I love about her paintings. I just didn't realize till today what she was doing design wise. Now I do. Anyhoo.....I learn as much as anyone on this forum. Teaching others teach US more than 'them' sometimes I think. LOL Thanks again, June. Dear Pat, Yes, Cline's work has the most gorgeous edges...none alike hardly ever. She painted from real life and I guess that is why her edges are so beautiful. I can look at some of my paintings and go "UGH!" Because I did one of two things. Either I had uninteresting edges and/or 'twin' shapes or 'near shapes'....too much alike. OR I had 'mutilated' the main shape with too many lights and darks. Thus, for instance.....made a fish head look like a spotted pudding. LOL So, I try to remember those hard learned lessons. But still fail in EVERY painting which I do. Believe me.....both Cherryl, Tami and myself have always said that we wish we were better designers composition wise.....or better stroke makers.....better shape makers....etc. We are never satisfied with our own stuff.....but we keep plogging along toward better and better. I just hope you will be willing to plog along with us.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2013 13:38:17 GMT -6
farm sitting this week so just got to pop in for a while. looks like lots of reading here to catch up on. I know I like shapely sillouettes. I just did a horse vase, and i find you almost do have to exagerate the shape, as my horse in the vase looks a bit ponyish. if i do it again I will make longer and staronger bends and neck i think.
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Post by Celeste McCall on Feb 11, 2013 16:04:02 GMT -6
Dear CookieS, I've never painted a horse but one day hope to. I really like your horse paintings with the curly manes. I will copy you on that if I ever do a horse portrait.
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Post by Tami Durbin on Feb 12, 2013 0:41:37 GMT -6
Dear Celeste,
Thank you for this thread!!! Shapes are soooo important!!! I think I forget to interlock them. Thank you for reminding us to do this.
I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE Frank Webb's paintings! I viewed the video of Fran Webb with you and Cherryl. That was a "real treat!"
Love, Tami
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Post by Tami Durbin on Mar 7, 2013 16:47:19 GMT -6
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Post by Pat Alexander on Mar 7, 2013 19:55:08 GMT -6
Composition is difficult when you are diving in head first for sure. I'm a visual, feeling person (if that makes sense) and I am finding that if I paint the same thing a few times it evolves...and I seem to be a bit happier each time. It might be just something very simple that I change but it makes a big difference to me. As we discuss different things here and I see examples it is helping me to incorporate ideas as I paint. I am beginning to feel freer and I am a bit happier with my results, too. It's all good! >^..^<
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Post by Elaine Stefanick on Mar 7, 2013 23:35:42 GMT -6
Hello Celeste, the top rose is probably the one I would choose also, it just appears more defined, I like the shape. I like that it is open opposed to the other that is closed and has way too many closed up petals! I like 3 cat sillouettes also, the one at the bottom of the 1st row and the one at the top and middle of the 2nd row. To me they just look the most realistic. The grapes I like are also the first set, probably because they have droplets on them and look the juiciest! Mmmmmm! Thanks for the lessons. Hugs.....Elaine
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